{"id":4372,"date":"2023-09-02T09:33:44","date_gmt":"2023-09-02T09:33:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/arsenie.viatadeapoi.ro\/?p=4372"},"modified":"2023-09-03T13:22:22","modified_gmt":"2023-09-03T13:22:22","slug":"perversitatea-statului-roman-e-ca-ii-impinge-pe-oameni-sa-nu-mai-spere-nimic-de-la-sistemul-public","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arsenie.viatadeapoi.ro\/?p=4372","title":{"rendered":"\u201ePerversitatea\u00a0statului rom\u00e2n e c\u0103 \u00eei \u00eempinge\u00a0pe oameni s\u0103 nu mai spere nimic de la sistemul public\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-cyan-bluish-gray-background-color has-background has-medium-font-size\">Noul documentar &amp; road movie al lui Alexandru Solomon, \u201eArsenie. Via\u021ba de apoi\u201d, este \u201eca un microbuz social \u00een care s\u0103 ne putem vorbi, chiar dac\u0103 nu suntem de acord\u201d, spune regizorul \u00eentr-un interviu acordat \u00een exclusivitate pentru Libertatea.&nbsp;<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><kbd>Un interviu de Alexandra Nistoroiu pentru <a href=\"https:\/\/www.libertatea.ro\/stiri\/regizorul-filmului-despre-arsenie-boca-critica-statul-perversitatea-statului-roman-e-ca-ii-impinge-pe-oameni-sa-nu-mai-spere-nimic-de-la-sistemul-public-si-sa-astepte-magie-4649223\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.libertatea.ro\/stiri\/regizorul-filmului-despre-arsenie-boca-critica-statul-perversitatea-statului-roman-e-ca-ii-impinge-pe-oameni-sa-nu-mai-spere-nimic-de-la-sistemul-public-si-sa-astepte-magie-4649223\">Libertatea<\/a>, cu ocazia proiec\u021biei filmului la Festivalul Anonimul din Sfintu Gheorghe (15.08.2023)<\/kbd><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u201eCredin\u021ba merge \u00een paralel cu celelalte lucruri care compun identitatea unor oameni\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 Cred c\u0103 to\u021bi avem ni\u0219te biasuri. Sunt prejudec\u0103\u021bi cu care ai intrat \u00een acest film pe care \u021bi le-ai reg\u00e2ndit pe parcurs? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 Cred c\u0103 am \u00een\u021beles un pic mai bine mecanismele \u0219i cum credin\u021ba e ceva impenetrabil&nbsp; \u0219i care merge \u00een paralel cu celelalte lucruri&nbsp; care compun identitatea unor oameni. Po\u021bi s\u0103 por\u021bi un dialog cu un om credincios,&nbsp; dac\u0103 tu nu e\u0219ti credincios, dar exist\u0103 aceast\u0103 barier\u0103, care trebuie respectat\u0103. Nu c\u0103 a\u0219 vrea s\u0103-i deconvertesc oricum. Singurul lucru pe care l-am \u00eencercat a fost s\u0103 pun un pic de ordine \u00een domeniul factual&nbsp; despre Arsenie Boca: s\u0103 analiz\u0103m un pic ra\u021bional faptele&nbsp; \u0219i s\u0103 vedem ce e mitologie \u0219i ce e istorie.&nbsp; Trump e un produs al mistific\u0103rii, ca Arsenie Boca&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"> \u2013 Acest exerci\u021biu de confruntare a mitului cu faptele,&nbsp; cu documentele oficiale, a venit din dorin\u021ba asta de demontare, demascare&nbsp; sau a fost un joc?&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 Exist\u0103 o industrie a mistific\u0103rii, la noi \u0219i nu numai. Exist\u0103 \u0219i \u00een Statele Unite \u2013 \u0219i Donald Trump e produsul perfect al acestei industrii.&nbsp; Mai periculos probabil dec\u00e2t Arsenie Boca. Arsenie Boca e decedat, deci nu candideaz\u0103 la pre\u0219edin\u021bie.&nbsp; Dar a existat o dorin\u021b\u0103 de demistificare.&nbsp; Nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 am vrut s\u0103-i transform pe credincio\u0219i \u00een atei.&nbsp; Am vrut doar s\u0103 facem \u00eempreun\u0103 aceast\u0103 gimnastic\u0103 mental\u0103: de a nu ne mai l\u0103sa p\u0103c\u0103li\u021bi. Unele dintre aceste \u201emiracole\u201d \u0219i pove\u0219ti despre miracole s-au n\u0103scut \u00een timpul vie\u021bii lui Arsenie, dar majoritatea sunt post-mortem \u0219i sunt create cu concursul nu numai al credincio\u0219ilor,&nbsp; ci \u0219i al presei.&nbsp; Complet f\u0103r\u0103 responsabilitate.&nbsp; Eu am o alert\u0103 Google cu numele lui Arsenie Boca&nbsp; \u0219i \u00een fiecare zi primesc 3-4 articole care preiau,&nbsp; pe nemestecate, aceste pove\u0219ti. C\u0103 Arsenie Boca a fost chemat de Ceau\u0219escu la Comitetul Central \u0219i Arsenie a prezis execu\u021bia lui Ceau\u0219escu.&nbsp; C\u0103 Arsenie a prezis r\u0103zboiul din Ucraina.&nbsp; Toate lucrurile astea sunt relatate de pres\u0103 \u0219i nu de pres\u0103 m\u0103runt\u0103 sau din or\u0103\u0219ele obscure, ci de pres\u0103 na\u021bional\u0103, de 10-15 ani,&nbsp; f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 existe nici m\u0103car o fraz\u0103 la \u00eenceput: \u201ese spune c\u0103\u201d sau \u201ecredincio\u0219ii cred c\u0103\u201d.&nbsp; Sunt prezentate ca \u0219tiri \u0219i le reiau de 3 ori pe an,&nbsp; cu copy-paste.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 Pentru c\u0103 fac trafic. Nu e o scuz\u0103, ci doar o explica\u021bie.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 Cred c\u0103 e r\u0103spuns la audien\u021b\u0103, dar, \u00een acela\u0219i timp, e superpericulos.&nbsp; C\u0103 nu se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 doar cu Arsenie Boca, ci&nbsp; cu tot felul de lucruri.&nbsp; Adic\u0103 demonstreaz\u0103 un mod de operare al presei care e copy-paste.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">Exerci\u021biul de confruntare a faptelor cu mitul&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 Revenind, ziceai c\u0103 a fost \u0219i inten\u021bia de demistificare. Tu erai \u00eens\u0103 con\u0219tient c\u0103 oamenii nu se vor r\u0103zg\u00e2ndi neap\u0103rat pentru c\u0103 le-ar\u0103\u021bi documentele oficiale\u2026 <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 Nu, dar m\u0103 g\u00e2ndeam c\u0103 poate ar putea s\u0103-\u0219i construiasc\u0103 un fel de metod\u0103 proprie de protec\u021bie \u00een fa\u021ba mistific\u0103rii. C\u0103 n-au nevoie&nbsp; aceste pove\u0219ti neap\u0103rat ca s\u0103 cread\u0103.&nbsp; Au nevoie de rela\u021bia lor personal\u0103 cu credin\u021ba, n-au nevoie de mistific\u0103ri neap\u0103rat, care de multe ori sunt \u0219i&nbsp;ridicole \u0219i \u00eei \u0219i expun la a fi foarte receptivi la alte gogom\u0103nii \u0219i teorii ale conspira\u021biei.&nbsp; Cu Arsenie Boca vine \u0219i conspira\u021bia mondial\u0103 cu COVID-ul, explica\u021bii pro-ruse despre r\u0103zboiul din Ucraina, sunt din acela\u0219i registru. Dac\u0103 oamenii ar fi un pic mai rezisten\u021bi la acestea, adic\u0103 ar avea un soi de \u00eendoial\u0103, poate ar fi mai proteja\u021bi.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">Depresia din Rom\u00e2nia <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 E complicat, cred c\u0103 to\u021bi suntem m\u0103car un pic vulnerabil la fake news \u0219i intoxic\u0103ri, mai ales c\u00e2nd se aliniaz\u0103 cu ce credem deja. De pild\u0103, dac\u0103 ne confirm\u0103 o prejudecat\u0103 negativ\u0103 despre cum func\u021bioneaz\u0103 societatea. \u2013 Da, exist\u0103 un rezervor de indignare&nbsp;uria\u0219. Cred c\u0103 nivelul de depresie e at\u00e2t&nbsp; de mare \u00een Rom\u00e2nia azi, \u00eenc\u00e2t to\u021bi avem nevoie de refulare, de indignare,&nbsp; de \u00eenc\u0103 o confirmare c\u0103 suntem cei mai oribili oameni \u0219i ni se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 cele mai groaznice lucruri.&nbsp; E pe un fond de depresie na\u021bional\u0103, de fapt.&nbsp; Dac\u0103 stai s\u0103 te ui\u021bi \u00een jur,&nbsp;sigur c\u0103-s motive destule, dar sunt \u0219i motive contrare. Sigur c\u0103 e mult\u0103 s\u0103r\u0103cie \u0219i mult\u0103 nedreptate, dar s-au f\u0103cut \u0219i multe progrese \u00een ultimii 30 de ani.&nbsp; Furia mea,&nbsp; la fel ca furia acestor oameni, am \u00eencercat s\u0103 o domesticesc&nbsp; \u0219i s\u0103 o pun un pic la rece. Pentru c\u0103 am sim\u021bit&nbsp; c\u0103 m\u0103 \u0219i macin\u0103, m\u0103 \u00eenr\u0103ie\u0219te&nbsp; \u0219i nu aveam nevoie de asta.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 Sunt lucruri pe care ai descoperit c\u0103 le ai \u00een comun cu oamenii din film, cu partenerii t\u0103i de drum?&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 Da, diverse lucruri care \u021bin de spa\u021biul \u00een care tr\u0103im, dezam\u0103giri comune. De exemplu, legat de ce s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat cu destructurarea complet\u0103 a infrastructurii publice \u00een Rom\u00e2nia \u00een ultimii 30 de ani, de la construc\u021bii la educa\u021bie la cinema. Apoi, \u0219i eu percep&nbsp; nelini\u0219tea asta&nbsp; legat\u0103 de natur\u0103,&nbsp; planet\u0103, pe care&nbsp; o aveau destul de mul\u021bi dintre ei. Problema e ce facem cu nelini\u0219tea asta.&nbsp;&nbsp; Am \u00eencercat&nbsp; spre finalul filmului s\u0103&nbsp; construiesc un fel de r\u0103spuns la ce se mai poate face.&nbsp; C\u0103&nbsp; ideologia comunist\u0103 a dat-o&nbsp; r\u0103u de gard.&nbsp; Aia fascist\u0103, nu mai vorbim. Biserica e \u00een mod&nbsp; istoric legat\u0103 de&nbsp; stat \u0219i de politic\u0103.&nbsp; Nu \u0219i-a f\u0103cut niciun examen, o reform\u0103. C\u00e2nd Arsenie Boca zicea s\u0103-nfigem steagul ro\u0219u la Vatican, e un soi de provocare, glumea\u021b\u0103&nbsp; pe care a aruncat-o Securit\u0103\u021bii. Dar, \u00een acela\u0219i timp, stai s\u0103 te g\u00e2nde\u0219ti: omul&nbsp; voia s\u0103 propun\u0103 un fel de a treia&nbsp; cale, adic\u0103 s\u0103 m\u0103rit\u0103m&nbsp; comunismul cu religia&nbsp; \u0219i poate iese ceva&nbsp; bun, sau vrea&nbsp; s\u0103 sfideze puterea Vaticanului, a imperiului religios, printr-o&nbsp; mi\u0219care social\u0103,&nbsp; egalitarist\u0103?&nbsp; Putem s\u0103 vis\u0103m,&nbsp; s\u0103-l vedem pe Arsenie ca un soi de vizionar. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 Cred c\u0103 te-au convertit un pic. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 Da, dar nu \u00een sens religios. Cred c\u0103 ortodoxia a prins at\u00e2ta putere \u00een Rom\u00e2nia pe fond de gol ideologic&nbsp;complet.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u201eOamenii&nbsp;nu mai au nici ce s\u0103 cread\u0103 \u0219i atunci&nbsp;ortodoxia e o valoare sigur\u0103\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 Revenind la suprapunerea mitului cu&nbsp;faptele, n-am putea&nbsp; s\u0103 facem asta \u0219i cu practic orice religie, orice credin\u021b\u0103? Cineva religios \u021bi-ar spune c\u0103 nu po\u021bi aplica&nbsp; logica laic\u0103, ra\u021bional\u0103 la o nara\u021biune a credincio\u0219ilor.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 \u0218tiu, dar eu n-am aplicat&nbsp; mecanismul de examen ra\u021bional Bibliei, ci manipul\u0103rii&nbsp; \u0219i mistific\u0103ri din ultimii&nbsp; 30 de ani. Nu e acela\u0219i lucru.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 \u00cen sensul c\u0103 e suficient de aproape \u00eenc\u00e2t s\u0103 fie mai u\u0219or de confruntat cu faptele?&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 Pe de-o parte, da.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u2013 C\u0103, altfel, \u0219i Isus a fost personaj istoric \u00een&nbsp;cre\u0219tinism.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left has-white-background-color has-background\">\u2013 \u0218tiu, dar&nbsp; Biblia e un text \u00eenchis \u0219i care e acceptat de multe lume ca un adev\u0103r&nbsp; universal.&nbsp; Dar nu e un adev\u0103r ra\u021bional. Nu cred c\u0103&nbsp; credincio\u0219ii&nbsp; sunt siguri c\u0103 \u00een mod faptic, Iisus a&nbsp; multiplicat fix 5.000 de p\u00e2ini. Cred c\u0103 diferen\u021ba e \u00een&nbsp; regimul \u0103sta de via\u021b\u0103 de azi, \u00een care ne l\u0103s\u0103m&nbsp; min\u021bi\u021bi pentru c\u0103 accept\u0103m toate aceste mistific\u0103ri.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left has-cyan-bluish-gray-background-color has-background\">Cite\u015fte \u00eentreaga \u015ftire:&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.libertatea.ro\/stiri\/regizorul-filmului-despre-arsenie-boca-critica-statul-perversitatea-statului-roman-e-ca-ii-impinge-pe-oameni-sa-nu-mai-spere-nimic-de-la-sistemul-public-si-sa-astepte-magie-4649223\" target=\"_blank\">Regizorul filmului despre Arsenie Boca critic\u0103 statul: \u201ePerversitatea&nbsp;statului rom\u00e2n e c\u0103 \u00eei \u00eempinge&nbsp;pe oameni s\u0103 nu mai spere nimic de la sistemul public \u0219i s\u0103 a\u0219tepte magie\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Noul documentar &amp; road movie al lui Alexandru Solomon, \u201eArsenie. 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